Kellyanne Conway works very hard to be the queen of spin, but fell completely flat in her absurdity on Meet the Press in an interview with Chuck Todd on Sunday morning.
Todd asked a simple question, one that was on everyone’s minds after Sean Spicer’s ridiculous Saturday press conference in which he ranted about the unfair media coverage of Trump’s inauguration attendance and then spewed some easily debunked facts about that attendance. Todd asked Conway:
‘The presidency is about choices, so I’m curious why President Trump chose yesterday to send out his press secretary to essentially litigate a provable falsehood when it comes to a small and petty thing like crowd size. I guess my question to you is: why do that?’
Conway began talking, but she didn’t answer that question. She explained that Trump has done a lot of meaningful things over the last few days, like signing executive orders regarding the ACA, and said that “presidents aren’t judged by the crowd size at their inaugurations.”
Chuck Todd had to interrupt the long and rambling answer to try once again to get her to answer his original question.
‘you make a very reasonable and rational case for why crowd sizes don’t matter. Then explain. You did not answer the question. Why did the president send out his press secretary …why put him out there for the very first time in front of that podium to utter a provable falsehood?’
Conway bristled and said that if Todd was going to keep “referring to our press secretary in those types of terms, we’re going to have to rethink our relationship here.” She pointed to the recent inaccurate story about Trump removing the bust of Martin Luther King from the Oval Office and then ranted about that for awhile.
Todd grew increasingly frustrated. He repeated his question once again, saying that the choice to tell these lies in front of the American people and the world “undermines the credibility of the entire White House press office on day one.”
Kellyanne Conway all but rolled her eyes.
‘No it doesn’t. Don’t be so overly dramatic about it, Chuck…our press secretary gave alternative facts.’
It was all a bit too much for Todd at that point, and he couldn’t help but laugh. He incredulously explained to Trump’s new White House counselor that “alternative facts” are the same thing as “lies.”
When Conway tried to deflect by talking about President Obama’s record and then insisted that no one can prove any of the numbers, Chuck Todd had to finally laugh.
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