President Trump caused an uproar on Saturday morning when he announced to his 26 million followers that President Obama had wiretapped his phones at Trump Tower.
Ever since Trump made the claim, a number of national security experts have spoken out to explain just how baseless it really is.
On Sunday morning, NBC’s Chuck Todd asked James Clapper, who served as Director of National Intelligence from 2012 until early this year, if he would have been aware of any wiretap of Trump’s office.
Clapper responded by saying that, during Trump’s campaign, “there was no such wiretap activity mounted against the President.”
‘I would certainly hope so. I can’t speak officially anymore, but I will say that the part of the national security apparatus that I oversaw — the DNI — there was no such wiretap activity mounted against the president — the president-elect at that time or as a candidate — or against his campaign.’
He then added:
‘I can’t speak for other title 3 authorized entities in the government, or state or local entities.’
Todd then pressed Clapper further, asking him if he would have known if any other intelligence agencies, like the FBI, had requested a FISA court order for a wiretap. Clapper said that he would have been aware of “something like this, absolutely.”
When Todd followed up on Clapper’s response, asking, “At this point, you can’t confirm or deny whether that exists?”
Clapper then responded, without hesitation, “I can deny it.”
Todd then clarified that “there is no FISA court order,” and Clapper said again, “not to my knowledge.”
Clearly surprised by Clapper’s confidence, Todd simply said about the new information:
‘Well, that’s an important revelation.’
Since Trump’s Saturday tweet storm, the White House has tried to spin the tweets into something that sounds a bit less like a conspiracy theory. On Sunday morning, White House spokesperson Sarah Huckabee Sanders told ABC News:
‘All we’re saying is, let’s take a closer look. Let’s look into this. If this happened, if this is accurate, this is the biggest overreach and the biggest scandal.’
If anything happened, it would be considered a great scandal; however, based on Clapper’s information, and considering the fact that President Trump has not provided any evidence to back up his accusations, it seems very unlikely that any overreach took place during Obama’s last months as president.
Watch the exchange between Clapper and Todd in the video below, available via YouTube.
Featured image via Twitter screenshot.