On Friday, during his closed-door testimony, David Holmes, a State Department aide, reportedly confirmed that he overheard a conversation between Trump and U.S. Ambassador to the European Union, Gordon Sondland where our so-called “president” was discussing their efforts to extort Ukraine for dirt on the Bidens.
According to CNN:
‘US ambassador told President Donald Trump that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky “loves your ass” and that Ukraine was going to move forward with the investigation Trump had asked Zelensky for a day earlier, according to new testimony from a US official in Kiev who overheard the phone conversation.
‘David Holmes told lawmakers in a closed-door impeachment inquiry Friday that US Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland had told Trump the Ukrainian President would do “anything you ask him to” and that Sondland had confirmed the Ukrainians were going to “do the investigation,” one day after Trump has asked Zelensky to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden, according to a copy of Holmes’ opening statement obtained by CNN.
‘Holmes’ statement confirmed the testimony from Bill Taylor, the top US diplomat in Ukraine, who revealed the July 26 phone call with lawmakers at his public testimony Wednesday, saying Holmes had informed Taylor about it after he first appeared on Capitol Hill behind closed doors last month. Holmes’ testimony places Trump closer to the push for Ukraine to open an investigation into his political rival, and raises additional questions about the testimony of Sondland, who is scheduled to testify publicly next week.’
Holmes told White House lawmakers that Trump was speaking so loudly that he overheard the entire conversation very clearly, saying for the record under oath:
‘While Ambassador Sondland’s phone was not on speakerphone, I could hear the President’s voice through the earpiece of the phone. The President’s voice was very loud and recognizable, and Ambassador Sondland held the phone away from his ear for a period of time, presumably because of the loud volume.
‘Even though I did not take notes of those statements, I have a clear recollection that these statements were made.’
Clearly that’s not a conversation that Holmes was likely to forget the details of, being so incriminating.
The CNN report goes on to say:
‘Holmes also confirmed Taylor’s testimony about the President’s thoughts on Ukraine, saying he had asked Sondland “if it was true that the President did not ”Give a s— about Ukraine.”
‘Holmes said Sondland had responded that Trump cares only about “big stuff.” When Holmes said that the Ukraine war was big, Sondland responded, ” ‘Big stuff’ that benefits the President, like the Biden investigation that Mr. Giuliani was pushing,” Holmes said.’
Holmes also reported that at the end of the call he overheard Sondland talking to Trump about the rapper who is imprisoned in Sweden, A$AP Rocky. Sondland told Trump that Rocky should have been “released on your word,” adding that Trump could “tell the Kardashians that you tried.”
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